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Mini starter- where to get and what model??

Where do I get these infamous mini starters?? At AutoZone? What do I ask for? I've got a 440 in a 71 dodge monaco
thanks
David
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78bbd100
Moparts Member
Posts: 770
From: Medical Lake, WA
Registered: May 2002
posted 05-31-2002 07:33 PM

show the secret hand shake and we'll tell you
actually anywhere

ask for a starter from a 93-95 dodge truck w/ 360.
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carl
Moderator
Posts: 6973
From: Ohio
Registered: Nov 1999
posted 05-31-2002 07:40 PM

I'm thinkin theres some #'s in the tech area and the 'best of' sections.
carl
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STARTERS WITH LESTER #17466

From the posts I've seen these are the ones guys have been using on the big blocks, they are supposed to be good on the small blocks also.

MANUFACTURER INTERCHANGE

ARC..............#S1766
ARROW............#35-2414
BOSCH REMAN......#SR6504X
CHRYSLER.........#53005984
LESTER...........#17466
LUCAS REMAN......#S2403
NIPPONDENSO......#128000-781 OR #128000-7810
NIPPONDENSO REMAN#9712809-781
PIC..............#190-365
WAI..............#2-1383-ND OR #2-1398-ND
OR #2-1398-ND-1

THESE VEHICLES ARE ALL LISTED AS HAVING THE LESTER SERIES 17466 STARTERS..

DODGE B-SERIES VAN- 91-95 3.9L 5.2L 5.9L
DODGE D-SERIES P/U- 91-93 3.9L 5.2L 5.9L
DAKOTA- 91-95 3.9L 5.2L
RAM P/U- 94-95 3.9L 5.2L 5.9L
RAMCHARGER- 91-93 5.2L 5.9L
W-SERIES- 91 3.9L 5.2L
W-SERIES- 92-93 3.9L 5.2L 5.9L

ALL OF THESE ARE LISTED AS 1.4kw, 12V, CW ROTATION, OFFSET GEAR REDUCTION, 10 TEETH.

Just so every-one knows LESTER is not an actual parts manufacturer. Lester part numbers are just a generic part ID system that SOME auto parts stores use. If you want one from an auto store you should use the vehicle application chart (i.e '94 Ram 5.2L)
One Moparts member got one from Auto-zone for a '95 Ram their # was 17181 he had to use a special 800 # to confirm it crossed to Lester 17466. I believe he said Advanced auto uses the same number.

This picture is a 17084 manufacured by WAI. The 17466 basically looks the same except the case of the 17466 is notched out exposing the 10 tooth gear. The 17466 is 21mm shorter also.

tboomer
Moparts Member
Posts: 491
From: Iowa USA
Registered: Feb 2002
posted 05-31-2002 07:57 PM

Got mine from a junkyard....real nice for 25.00....
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shwing.er
Moparts Member
Posts: 624
From: south bend, indiana
Registered: Jan 2002
posted 05-31-2002 07:58 PM

junk yard one here too...25$ seems to be the price
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Wheeler
Moparts Member
Posts: 511
From: Alberta, Canada
Registered: Oct 2001
posted 05-31-2002 08:39 PM

Ask for a starter from a:
- 1988-1989 Fifth Ave/Diplomat/Gran Fury
- 1988-present Dodge Truck, Van or Dakota with the 3.9 V6 or 318/360 engines
Somewhere in the 1990s, the mini starter was redesigned - the new design was lighter than the original 1988 starter. I am not sure of the exact year...maybe 1991??

There are esentially 3 sources for these starters.
1. Auto wreckers and pick your part places - your cheapest source, providing you want to take a chance on a used part.
2. Auto parts stores sell these rebuilt starters fairly inexpensively - quality tends to be mixed though, depending on the rebuilder - just ask for a starter from one of the above vehicles. Bear in mind that you may have to provide another mini starter as a core - some places watch for this if you try and bring back an old style starter.
3. Mopar Performance - sells brand new mini starters - this is essentially the exact same starter that comes in the new Dodge Trucks.

Hope this helps
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Don1
Moparts Member
Posts: 3117
From: Valley City, ND. USA
Registered: Oct 2001
posted 05-31-2002 08:55 PM

I use the juck yard ones too. Never got a bad one. $25.00 no core charge.
88 up V6 pickup and 90 up V8.
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451 Jim
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Posts: 1440
From: Lexington Park Maryland
Registered: Dec 2000
posted 05-31-2002 09:01 PM

Carl is right, either the archives or best of (check both). I did a survey in my area this spring. Autozone etc wanted between 80-110 plus a core charge (typically $45). I just went to the junk yard and they pulled it for $30, no core charge. These are great! '92 Dodge Truck 360 (or any engine).
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Faust
Moparts Member
Posts: 1008
From: N. Attleboro, MA, USA
Registered: Dec 1999
posted 05-31-2002 09:07 PM

Listed above are:
1988-1989 Fifth Ave/Diplomat/Gran Fury
Aren't these V-6? Will that work in a 383?
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dhaan
Moparts Member
Posts: 256
From: champaign, il usa
Registered: Feb 2002
posted 06-01-2002 10:05 AM

is it a bolt-on for a 440?
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tboomer
Moparts Member
Posts: 491
From: Iowa USA
Registered: Feb 2002
posted 06-01-2002 10:15 AM

Yes it is a bolt on...Go to Carls tech archive and there is a topic in removing the plastic extension.....Also says to have it wired up before putting it in
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chris ward
Moparts Member
Posts: 252
From: swift current, sk. Canada
Registered: Nov 2001
posted 06-01-2002 10:17 AM

Will it work on a 4spd too?
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69DartGT
Moparts Member
Posts: 547
From: San Diego, Ca.
Registered: Dec 2001
posted 06-01-2002 11:23 AM

I just checked autozone on line for 1993 D150 360 starter $102? must be doing something wrong plus $60 core charge. How about some help parts guys.
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jlemon
Moparts Member
Posts: 789
From: Constantine, MI, 49042
Registered: Apr 2001
posted 06-01-2002 12:29 PM

I got one yesterday. Autozone and Adavanced had the same price, $74.99, one had a $40 core charge and the other was $55 for the core. I asked for one for a 91 Dakota with the 3.9
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dhaan
Moparts Member
Posts: 256
From: champaign, il usa
Registered: Feb 2002
posted 06-01-2002 03:34 PM

bought it today, installed it. Real Nice!!
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Ira

I have read that some people have been having trouble fitting the P5249644 MP mini starters on B engines. The Mancini starter bolted right up to the 440 with room to spare, no grinding or other modifications needed, and it spins the enging just as fast as the huge and heavy old style 440HP starter. BTW--the part number MRE644. Address is Manciniracing.com

We've found that if you remove this elec fitting from the MP starter for both the BB and SB V-8 applications.(esp the BB) It fits the block and less hassles when trying to get it wired up.

Here is another pic showing where I had to grind(few seconds w/grinding wheel) on the side of the starter for a little block clearance, it was touching the block which wouldn't allow it to mount flush on the trans case.

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