Moparts Tech Archive
Pitman Arm Questions
Registered: Dec 2001
posted 05-21-2002 02:38 PM
Will a pit man arm from a pwr steering box fit a manual box?
also... a while back there was a posting about the use of a C-body pitman arm an an A-Body to make it act like a faster ratio box. Does anybody remember this and have any more information. I would like to know what year pitman arm will fit my 74 car and my 69 car (darts). Thanks
I can't remmebr about the power vs manual pitman arm interchange.
The C-body pitman arm won't fit the 69 box, the box splines are too small. It'll "fit" the 74 box, but won't be clocked quite right. Then there's the small problem of the center link end of the C-body pitman being too big for the A-body center link. The C-body pitman is REALLY close to the same as the A-body piece, but it WILL need some "massaging" to fit (Ask me how I know!). Then you need a C-body idler arm too (it's a bolt-on), & it may need some minor "massaging" also to match the angle of the pitman.
Do either car have headers? If so, forget about this mod, there's not enough room (I built my own for this very reason!). Even with stock manifolds, head pipes WILL be a challange on the driver's side, having to clear the starter, torsion bar, & now you go & move the center link back 2"!!! Get's REAL tight!
The results, however, are great!!!! I never have to turn my sterign wheel more than about 5/8 of a turn. If I DO, I'm either turning into a tight space, or chasing the rear around a corner!
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=====================================69 B-Body Pitman Arm.
Mine looks shot. Is there someone out there making repros or rebuilding OEM'S. Thanks Guys.
Either Rare Parts Co. in California, or Firm Feel Inc. in Vancouver Washington. They are very spendy though. Dennis
I think Just Suspension has them.
If you can wait a week http://www.p-s-t.com/ has them the cheapest at $100 and they don't charge shipping. When I was looking for one I called Rare parts because they are closer but they are more expensive and charge shipping.
Is there a difference between these, and one that may be available from MOOG? I got a replacement pitman arm for the wife's Barracuda from MOOG for $55CDN.
no moog#,they did not make it, here are some
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=====================================pitman arm for 74 Abody manual steering
I am trying to find a pitman arm that will fit on a 67 dart manual steering box and. The rest of the front suspension is out of a 74 vailiant, including the crosslink. I believe a pitman arm from a 73-76 manual box will work. Does anyone know where I can purchase one?
There is not one. The new boxs have a larger sector shaft. You either have to trade for a 74 box or do what I did and have a good welder cut and flip the drag link end of the pitman arm you have from the early box.
=====================================T/A Steering idler arm ?
R/T 6 Pack Shaker
I am getting ready to install a T/A power steering box and pitman arm on my 70 Challenger, my question is, the idler arm, is it longer than one for a PS non fast ratio box?
the t/a box and pitman arm (with stock idler arm) will give you unequal tire travel. One tire will turn more than the other. there is a bandaid. the idler arm is easily replaceable with one from a 1970's "c" body(i think). someone will have to back me up on this as i dont have any of my books here
I think you are correct. I have run my AAR with fast ratio steering and the short factory e body arm and have never seen any problem in handling. My bud( the one with the vibrating 340) put fast ratio and the long idle arm on his and it rubs the headers where the short one did not.
AAR's & T/A's with the fast ratio pwr steering had incorrect steering geometry from the factory at no extra charge. This was due to the fact that the engineers did not have enough time during prouction to re-spec the Fury idler arm for the "fast ratio" pwr steering set up. Do not think for one minute having the wrong geometry is a good idea in the real world. The fast ration pwr steering box itself is a modified C body unit and the faster ratio acually comes from the long pitman arm.